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Reply #390 - Mar 7th, 2010, 2:23pm
 
Quote: "I don't think it's fair to my paid subscribers to share this indicator with you here for free in DailyWealth. But I will tell you its message:  
 
Buy gold stocks now.]"
 
As all paper currencies around the world deteriorate--taking their Host Countries down with them--If you can name a better candidate for Nationalization -(In the Country's & Citizens best interests to be sure)- than their --All minerals--Co's --I'll say buy stocks. In the meantime--
 
If you can't pick it up and bite it--(then hide it away again)---Don't buy it!!.
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Reply #391 - Mar 7th, 2010, 2:26pm
 
Hi Jlconst  
 
I am assuming that latest issue of True Wealth was February's.
 
Can you tell us when this free  DailyWealth issue was published ?
 
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Reply #392 - Mar 7th, 2010, 2:56pm
 
Snake, In case Jl is unavailable: D.W. 3/5 : T.W. March is latest'  Gold miners ETF "GDX"  and Wisdom Tree Small Cap Japan Dividend Fund "DFJ" are latest recommendations.
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Reply #393 - Mar 7th, 2010, 3:16pm
 
Snake  I received it last week. I excerpted the article because of one sentence that rang true.....gold is still hated....I will look for the address in case you want to sign up.......I will post it in the "gold" post so we can get back to banking...
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Reply #394 - Mar 7th, 2010, 4:59pm
 
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i understand that there are no more national banks recommended by the group of authors of
Stansberry & Associates Investment Research.
 
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Reply #395 - Mar 7th, 2010, 6:15pm
 
Snake, the Daily Wealth comes in my email every day. I hardly ever open it but will forward you the next one I get. I'm sure you'll be able to figure out how to subscribe.
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Reply #396 - Mar 7th, 2010, 6:42pm
 
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Reply #397 - Mar 8th, 2010, 8:10am
 
I just heard that the people of Iceland are attempting to repudiate the debt that bank losses have caused. Essentially saying, "here, you can have the bankers, don't bother us, we won't pay ($135 a month for every man, women and child for 8 years)". They probably won't get away with it. Still, I bet that put a little chill in the American bankers coffee this morning.
 
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Reply #398 - Mar 8th, 2010, 9:37am
 
It's called Bank-ruptcy caused by imprudent risk being incurred by--The Banks--in a greedy quest for greater than normal returns, who else is responsible??. The populace had no voice in the matter. As far as Govt. forays onto thin ice--same terms apply.
 
You can bet your sweet A$$ had the windfall come in, the average citizen WOULDN'T be getting an Xmas card with his share!!.  
 
And the same goes for our Banks!! Bailouts=Bonuses!!-Gimmee a break!!.
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Reply #399 - Mar 8th, 2010, 9:44am
 
Hey, but think about it. What if we say to the Chinese, the Japanese, "We are not going to pay these debts, but you can have the collateral: the bankers (we'd chain them all up), all their cars, bank accounts, houses in the Berkshires, yachts, etc. You can even have the banks!"
 
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Reply #400 - Mar 8th, 2010, 12:37pm
 
Derned if I can remember a single China-man I cajoled into purchasing our CDO's which as I remember were being pushed by the Banks-read-Bakery's like "Year of the Cake" layer cakes with beautiful chocolate icing and a center of non-pasteurized mortgage cream.-"Tranche"
 
I'll take a modicum of responsibility for the fools I vote into office. But their hair brained appointees?? not so sure. And "Private Industry"?--another good reason to keep Gitmo open!, six times a day on their knees facing Mecca will be rehabilitating!.
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Reply #401 - Mar 29th, 2010, 3:10pm
 
Punks and Plutocrats
By PAUL KRUGMAN
Published: March 28, 2010
 
Health reform is the law of the land. Next up: financial reform. But will it happen? The White House is optimistic, because it believes that Republicans won’t want to be cast as allies of Wall Street. I’m not so sure. The key question is how many senators believe that they can get away with claiming that war is peace, slavery is freedom, and regulating big banks is doing those big banks a favor.
 
 
Some background: we used to have a workable system for avoiding financial crises, resting on a combination of government guarantees and regulation. On one side, bank deposits were insured, preventing a recurrence of the immense bank runs that were a central cause of the Great Depression. On the other side, banks were tightly regulated, so that they didn’t take advantage of government guarantees by running excessive risks.
 
From 1980 or so onward, however, that system gradually broke down, partly because of bank deregulation, but mainly because of the rise of “shadow banking”: institutions and practices — like financing long-term investments with overnight borrowing — that recreated the risks of old-fashioned banking but weren’t covered either by guarantees or by regulation. The result, by 2007, was a financial system as vulnerable to severe crisis as the system of 1930. And the crisis came.
 
Now what? We have already, in effect, recreated New Deal-type guarantees: as the financial system plunged into crisis, the government stepped in to rescue troubled financial companies, so as to avoid a complete collapse. And you should bear in mind that the biggest bailouts took place under a conservative Republican administration, which claimed to believe deeply in free markets. There’s every reason to believe that this will be the rule from now on: when push comes to shove, no matter who is in power, the financial sector will be bailed out. In effect, debts of shadow banks, like deposits at conventional banks, now have a government guarantee.
 
The only question now is whether the financial industry will pay a price for this privilege, whether Wall Street will be obliged to behave responsibly in return for government backing. And who could be against that?
 
Well, how about John Boehner, the House minority leader? Recently Mr. Boehner gave a talk to bankers in which he encouraged them to balk efforts by Congress to impose stricter regulation. “Don’t let those little punk staffers take advantage of you, and stand up for yourselves,” he urged — where by “taking advantage” he meant imposing some conditions on the industry in return for government backing.
 
Barney Frank, the chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, promptly had “Little Punk Staffer” buttons made up and distributed to Congressional aides.
 
But Mr. Boehner isn’t the problem: Mr. Frank has already shepherded fairly strong financial reform through the House. Instead, the question is what will happen in the Senate.
 
In the Senate, the legislation on the table was crafted by Senator Chris Dodd of Connecticut. It’s significantly weaker than the Frank bill, and needs to be made stronger, a topic I’ll discuss in future columns. But no bill will become law if Senate Republicans stand in the way of reform.
 
But won’t opponents of reform fear being cast as allies of the bad guys (which they are)? Maybe not. Back in January, Frank Luntz, the G.O.P. strategist, circulated a memo on how to oppose financial reform. His key idea was that Republicans should claim that up is down — that reform legislation is a “big bank bailout bill,” rather than a set of restrictions on the banks.
 
Sure enough, a few days ago Senator Richard Shelby of Alabama, in a letter attacking the Dodd bill, claimed that an essential part of reform — tougher oversight of large, systemically important financial companies — is actually a bailout, because “The market will view these firms as being ‘too big to fail’ and implicitly backed by the government.” Um, senator, the market already views those firms as having implicit government backing, because they do: whatever people like Mr. Shelby may say now, in any future crisis those firms will be rescued, whichever party is in power.
 
The only question is whether we’re going to regulate bankers so that they don’t abuse the privilege of government backing. And it’s that regulation — not future bailouts — that reform opponents are trying to block.
 
So it’s the punks versus the plutocrats — those who want to rein in runaway banks, and bankers who want the freedom to put the economy at risk, freedom enhanced by the knowledge that taxpayers will bail them out in a crisis. Whatever they say, the fact is that people like Mr. Shelby are on the side of the plutocrats; the American people should be on the side of the punks, who are trying to protect their interests.
 
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Reply #402 - Mar 30th, 2010, 9:12am
 
Krugman: Quote:
Some background: we used to have a workable system for avoiding financial crises, resting on a combination of government guarantees and regulation. On one side, bank deposits were insured, preventing a recurrence of the immense bank runs that were a central cause of the Great Depression. On the other side, banks were tightly regulated, so that they didn’t take advantage of government guarantees by running excessive risks.

There is some truth to this, however, as usual, Mr. Krugman leaves a lot out. The fact is, banking in the US has always had an extreme privilege (monopoly might be a better word) and, the gov't did in fact seek to control it -- and may have for a while, that is, until the regulators became one and the same bankers and took control of the controllers (Congress). Mr Krugman does not point out the the real problem has been with the regulators and not so much the greed they pretend to control -- essentially, the system he proposes that will solve all our problems.
 
And, Krugman doesn't point out (or even know , really) that the real problem is the monopoly (the legal tender laws) given to banks in the first place nor who the prime beneficiary is: politicians. Banking per se, needs no monopoly to provide it services, but it does need a monopoly to carry on a system of stealth taxation for the gov't -- that allows the politicians greater and greater power over peoples' lives, for which the people end up become more and more beholden. The people demand more and more compensation for their misery and the gov't uses the banking system to extract more and more from people. The end result being the complete destruction of the economy and morality.
 
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Quote from vintage49 on Apr 16th, 2010, 10:57am:
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What did GS do exactly?
 
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