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Banking sector (public) (Read 12149 times)
captbob
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Re: Banking sector (public)
Reply #435 -
May 2
nd
, 2010, 1:24pm
Morn: Got it: My Avast must have banished the miscreant!!.
The only thing I can say is good article but Alas, behind the curve. Though extremely well regarded BIS, must have put so much time into verification, they are late to the table. They have but to send Mt. a small check.
I can't believe that though every housewife/part time neighborhood Real Estate Agent knew there was a new game being played years before the Wall Street Wizards baked their first CDO cake. She knew most buyers would never-(couldn't)- pay the mortgage! it's that simple!. She might not have understood what tranche it would occupy in the CDO, -Was-Dat?, but she sure as hell knew it wasn't "Blueberry, peaches, apple pie". And so did her broker who gladly took his slice, and the Lawyers who closed the deal, and the Bank rep. who singed the check to the seller--- And everyone up the line Including the rating Agency's-(who I can't believe are still doing business--complicit in perpetrating a fraud)--"ALL"- except the rat in the wall who only hoped they'd all leave without dumping the hors d'oeuvres.
That's history. I notice they're deliberately vague in alluding to but not specifically predicting a future impact of these toxic debt leftovers.No-one want's to use the word Hell--much less "Freezing over". Can anyone define "Repudiation" can you fit it under the PC umbrella??.
While caught up in tossing wet blankets, allow me to state That Winery is not purely Altruistic!. They know full well, as do I, that upon drinking a bottle of wine--or 2--I'm looking for a wheelchair, and once safely ensconced I shall unhesitatingly open a third!!.
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mornings
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Re: Banking sector (public)
Reply #436 -
May 2
nd
, 2010, 1:41pm
Quote from jlconst
on May 2
nd
, 2010, 12:51pm:
. . . GS. They are Enron on steroids and throwing in a whole lott'a insider info. . .
JL,
All of that is undoubtedly true except that GS could never have gotten away with what they did without the special
legal
privileges they have. It's as if the gov't started giving street punks a license to mug people. It would still be criminal in any moral sense but they could get away with it. GS wouldn't even exist if it were not for the gov't.
Also, and I think more importantly, were it not for the Fed's manipulation of interest rates (which really caused the RE bubble in the first place) to create a credit expansion, driving interest rates down, all those fiduciaries, pension funds, and institutions, etc., would have had no interest in gambling instead of investing.
GS is just an opportunist, a company that puts up a casino for people who are charged with the responsibility but can't otherwise invest their money for a reasonable return. And, I think, before it is all over, we are going to find that most of what they did was perfectly
legal
.
What makes this so ticklish is that the whole banking system has become an institution that gambles with other people's money -- without their knowing it. If we want to get to the root of the problem, the banking system has to come down. It's not just a problem a few bad apples.
M
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Reply #437 -
May 2
nd
, 2010, 2:10pm
To Amend the National Banking Laws and the Federal Reserve Act (P.L. 69-639, 44 STAT. 1224).
Also known as The McFadden Act of 1927. Prohibited interstate banking.
# Banking Act of 1933 (P.L. 73-66, 48 STAT. 162).
Also known as the Glass-Steagall Act. Established the FDIC as a temporary agency. Separated commercial banking from investment banking, establishing them as separate lines of commerce.
# Banking Act of 1935 (P.L. 74-305, 49 STAT. 684).
Established the FDIC as a permanent agency of the government.
# Federal Deposit Insurance Act of 1950 (P.L. 81-797, 64 STAT. 873).
Revised and consolidated earlier FDIC legislation into one Act. Embodied the basic authority for the operation of the FDIC.
# Bank Holding Company Act of 1956 (P.L. 84-511, 70 STAT. 133).
Required Federal Reserve Board approval for the establishment of a bank holding company. Prohibited bank holding companies headquartered in one state from acquiring a bank in another state.
# Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002 (P.L. 107-204)*
(pdf version from Government Printing Office.)
Sarbanes-Oxley establishes the Public Company Oversight Board to regulate public accounting firms that audit publicly traded companies. It prohibits such firms from providing other services to such companies along with the audit. It requires that CEOs and CFOs certify the annual and quarterly reports of publicly traded companies. The Act authorizes, and in some cases requires, that the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) issue rules governing audits.
The law requires that insiders may no longer trade their company's securities during pension fund blackout periods. It mandates various studies including a study of the involvement of investment banks and financial advisors in the scandals preceding the legislation. Also included are whistle blower protections, new federal criminal laws, including a ban on alteration of documents.
Standing today as tombstones over the gutted remains beneath which give testimony to the efficiency of the Victorious Lobbyist and his sponsors-and payees- to whom all the chips in this current Monopoly Game Accrue.
And the Eulogy is simply----"Too big to fail"!!
200 million taxpayers??-----Just big enough to pay!!
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Re: Banking sector (public)
Reply #438 -
May 2
nd
, 2010, 2:13pm
Quote from jlconst
on May 2
nd
, 2010, 12:53pm:
This will never happen in our life time. Anyone who will honestly look at the #'s will know, we are beyond turning back. #'s don't lie...
JL,
I think you are right. Even the BIS knows it. The only reason the BIS publishes that report is to be able to later say, "I told you so". But they know very well that neither the US or any of those countries will or can change their direction until they have to, until it falls down around their ears. But this time there will be no World War arms trade to pull the US out of a depression.
Then the pols and economists and historians will blame it on the likes of GS and the free market . . . anyone but themselves . . . and they will probably get away it with just like they did after the last depression.
Meanwhile, feckless sycophants like Paul Krugman will go on telling us and those who make the laws, we need even bigger deficits.
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Re: Banking sector (public)
Reply #439 -
May 3
rd
, 2010, 11:37am
From Sinclair.....[ This week’s losses were extremely serious, a fact belied by the virtual absence of press coverage. They were the largest in any single week since the failure of IndyMac Bank on July 11, 2008.
IndyMac had assets of about $32 billion and deposits of $19 billion. Its failure cost the FDIC an estimated $8 billion.
The seven banks that failed this week had combined assets of about $25.8 billion and deposits of $19.6 billion. These failures cost the FDIC an estimated $7.33 billion.
Prior to this week, the FDIC’s estimated losses from 57 bank failures in 2010 stood at about $8.6 billion. This week’s failures practically doubled that figure, to $15.93 billion.
This information cannot be reconciled with the MOPE that states the banking sector has recovered. To the contrary, these failures speak of deeply-rooted problems in the banking sector that appear to be getting worse over time. ]
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Re: Banking sector (public)
Reply #440 -
May 3
rd
, 2010, 12:12pm
"Shock and Awe Coming
Shock and awe is coming but not as envisioned by the IMF. Smack in the face of the bailout announcement the US dollar is up.
-------------------Go to link for comparison chart-------------------
Please note that one evening or even one week does not a trend make. However, those expecting a quick "shock and awe" certainly did not get that reaction.
Today the EU made a $146 billion bet to avoid contagion. What will the EU do tomorrow when Spain and Portugal start imploding?
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Tomorrow they'll be lined up around the Rock of Gibraltar---to the Channel!
And the Greek people and politicians will "overnight" become as austere as Swiss bankers--sure!!, watch they'll be striking for a piece in pay hikes!.
If you must keep some cash-(over 3-4 mos expenses)- I would get into Australian $, they at least had the backbone to jack interest rates,--Canadian dollars, on raw materials & attitude, and Swiss francs--on aforementioned "Banker austerity" I bet those Goldman pastries didn't fool them, but can't locate anything on it.
The only thing supporting our $$'s IS- we're the tallest guy in a room full of midgets!!.
If China released the Yuan and threw their commodities/metals stockpile behind it --it would be Global reserve currency by the end of the week. Except 1.5 billion Chinese would be out of work--&--we'd be making --their toys for a bowl of noodles a day. The Oil Sheiks would love it--Except all out cars would be garaged--we'd be on Chinese bikes.
19 months to 2012 & counting!!.
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2010/05/shock-and-awe-eus-146-billion -bet-to.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MishsGlobalEconomicTrendAnalysis+%28Mish%27s+Global+Economic+Trend+Analysis%29
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Re: Banking sector (public)
Reply #441 -
May 4
th
, 2010, 12:47am
I like John Bogle's perspective on the CDO and their derivatives - "Wall Street doesn't lose. Speculation on Wall Street subtracts value from our society. It's a gamble, like Las Vegas, pitting one investor against another." (from Investment U)
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mornings
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Re: Banking sector (public)
Reply #442 -
May 4
th
, 2010, 9:47am
I'm less sanguine about treating all devices for speculation or hedging as gambling. I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with gambling except that we need to thoroughly understand that it produces nothing -- it is a zero sum game. But that is not to say that it has no benefits.
Insurance -- including gold -- produces nothing on balance. Well, insurance
helps
produce a capital market, as capital waiting to be claimed for causalities can be deployed in the capital markets. Derivatives are gambling for people who have no other stake, but they do provide a counter-party. Options are a good example.
I think the problem has to do with 1) a lack of disclosure, 2) where the money comes from to gamble and 3) capital requirements for banks that gamble.
In the case of banks gambling, they are typically doing so with people's money who have no clue and no chance to benefit (interest rates on saving are held low by gov't control. Just as bad or worse, they gamble with muny that doesn't exist -- that liability (with also no apparent benefit) falls to everyone holding dollars. Or, they can make bets (like naked shorting) without making sure the counter party is guaranteed a cover. You and I can't do that.
All these problems come from a gov't granting banks the privilege to provide poor or no disclosure and the ability to "print" money in a fractional reserve system -- essentially a license to steal. Far as I can tell, whether it is unwed mothers or Wall street bankers, give'em the license and they
will
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Re: Banking sector (public)
Reply #443 -
May 4
th
, 2010, 3:19pm
I don' neeed no steeenkin' license!.
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Re: Banking sector (public)
Reply #444 -
May 8
th
, 2010, 9:38am
Here's a sequel,
The Center Cannot Hold
, to John Mauldin's article last week .
BIS:
Quote:
"Today, interest rates are exceptionally low and the growth outlook for advanced economies is modest at best. This leads us to conclude that the question is when markets will start putting pressure on governments, not if.
"When, in the absence of fiscal actions, will investors start demanding a much higher compensation for the risk of holding the increasingly large amounts of public debt that authorities are going to issue to finance their extravagant ways?"
The whole story of the world economy is beginning to remind of Jack London's short story, "To build a fire". If you have never read it, you can find it
here
.
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Re: Banking sector (public)
Reply #445 -
Jul 25
th
, 2010, 11:01pm
Learning from the Bank of Dad or Banking catechism at its best.
I was not able to post the article in a single post and did not want to cut it in multiple posts ;
so here is the link to it:
http://www.beatingbuffett.com/?p=2296
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